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Topic "Why you don't want to fall off Northover... (1 of 40)" started by Vern Dewit on Feb-13-2007
Topic "Northover And Out (1 of 12)" started by Sonny Bou on Jul-29-2004
Topic "Mt. Northover Daytrip (1 of 17)" started by Linda Breton on Aug-29-2006

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (1 of 17)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:25 PM

Antri and I climbed Mt. Northover (S-N traverse) as a day trip on Sunday. This trip was the culmination of two years of my attempts to get near enough to the mountain, have dry conditions, and still have enough knees left to climb it. Frustrated by more failure this summer, I made a snap decision on Saturday that it was only possible for me as a day trip with an extra light pack. Sunday proved to be a perfect day for such a trip.

Stats: 14 1/2 hrs RT (8hrs to summit) with lots of time for meals and lounging, 32 km, and roughly 1200m elevation gain.

Verdict: The south ridge was not what either of us expected, but it was a blast and scenic. The descent route was horrible - piles of loose rock on very steep slab. Fun fun. It had two very new bolts installed in the upper areas of the descent route, one in the tricky slab we had to cross.

http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/northover.htm

Linda Breton
http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/scrambles.htm

Email: peaksdarkandbright@yahoo.ca

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (2 of 17)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 02:09 PM

Congrats Linda! Sounds like it's not that bad at all (good thing - I'll be on it next week, weather permitting).

Did you take Sonny's route down? I don't remember him saying it was too bad but maybe that's because he went up and down that way. I'll be going up from the col as well, since we're backpacking the ridge.

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (3 of 17)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 02:58 PM

Well done. That's a pretty impressive day trip. Great report and pics too. Makes me want to give it a shot.

Mike

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (4 of 17)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 03:39 PM

Well done. - that is a lot of distance on foot for one day. Good pics that show/describe the route quite well.
I wonder who would haul a bolt kit up to put bolts in there? Maybe wardens in anticipation of rescues?

bill.kerr@shaw.ca
http://www.billkerr.ca

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (5 of 17)
Author: Andrew Nugara
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 03:52 PM

Congratulations Linda and Antri on completing a very long day trip. Great report and photos Linda.

The water level of Hidden Lake can certainly make a huge difference, can�t it? Enabled Mark and I to do Warrior and Cordonnier as a day trip (when it was low), but completely thwarted our attempt at Joffre as a day trip (when it was high).

Like Bill, I�m also curious about the bolts. Were there bolts at the top of the ascent crux step or were they up set for Kane�s alternate descent route?

Andrew

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (6 of 17)
Author: Jason Wilcox
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 04:40 PM

Sounds like a comparable day to doing Castle Mountain - think it's close to 30km and 1400m of vertical. Definitely do-able. Good to know, thanks Linda and Antri.
Jason

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (7 of 17)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 05:34 PM

Thanks for the comments! It was a fun trip, and the day trip idea is very doable for most of the people here.

Vern, we descended Sonny's ascent route. Sonny didn't seem to have any complaints about it ;-), but I found it to be the hardest part of the mountain. Maybe climbing up it makes a difference.

We also wondered who would put the bolts up. The bolts were near the top of the descent route, in the trickiest section (steep, dirty slab and loose holds). We didn't see any on the ascent route, but it's really clean and solid, with good handholds, etc.

Yes, it's comparable to the Castle Mt. trip. I used my trip up Helena and Stuart as inspiration to get motivated for this one. ;-) Now I think I'll do Warrior and Cordonnier the same way. According to the register, it appears Steve Tober did all three in the same day!

Linda Breton
http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/scrambles.htm

Email: peaksdarkandbright@yahoo.ca

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (8 of 17)
Author: Kyle Oak
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 05:43 PM

Nice work Linda and Antri,

That top crux section looks exposed and technical. Awesome climb to do in a day.


Kyle Oak

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (9 of 17)
Author: Sonny Bou
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 05:44 PM

Great pics of the south ridge, Linda. Bravo Zulu to both you and Antri for an inspired effort. Having thrashed through that forest 3 times, I'm still choked about your pics of Hidden Lake with the plug pulled! ;-(

Sonny

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (10 of 17)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:24 PM

Thanks guys.

Kyle, the crux section is shaped like a cone, and the crack is above the ridge area. The climb is not technical, but it wouldn't be wise to do when wet or icy.

Sonny, I feel bad about dragging you out there through that forest. That was awful. But then I see all the peaks you bagged that weekend, and I don't feel so bad...;-)

Linda Breton
http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/scrambles.htm

Email: peaksdarkandbright@yahoo.ca

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (11 of 17)
Author: Antri Zhu
Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:25 PM

thanks for all the nice comments, I should thank Linda for suggesting the idea otherwise I probably would have waited until next year.

I have quite a few photos of the trip as well and its posted here as always

http://community.webshots.com/user/antrizhu


Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (12 of 17)
Author: Bob Parr
Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 08:44 AM

Felicitations from me too on your Northover day trip! Can you ever have too many attaboys ... uh, attagirls? It was a very successful week for you Linda, though how could the two trips have been more different? First the stormy and cold Niblock/Whyte adventure and then the sunny and warm Northover trip. Great photography and trip reports for both!

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (13 of 17)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 09:38 AM

Thank you kindly, Bob. It's kind of cool having such opposite conditions on back to back trips...the mountains never disappoint, only the cartilage! :-)

I'm waiting to hear more about *your* successful trip this weekend.... ;-)

Linda Breton
http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/scrambles.htm

Email: peaksdarkandbright@yahoo.ca

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (14 of 17)
Author: Deleted User
Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 01:12 PM

Very nice work guys. I was exhausted just looking at the pictures!

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (15 of 17)
Author: Dave MacDonald
Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:22 PM

Holy crap Linda, that's awesome...great distance covered! 30+kms in the Rockies is not an easy task, especially when it involves summitting as well!

Dave MacDonald
http://macdonald.typepad.com

Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (16 of 17)
Author: Mountain Ninja
Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:58 PM

Nice work, Antri and Linda! I`m impressed. It`s not everyday you hear that the descent route is more difficult than the ascent route. Very interesting. When I get around to do Mt. Northover, I will take your advice and descent via the ascent route.

Raff


Topic: Mt. Northover Daytrip (17 of 17)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Thursday, August 31, 2006 07:49 AM

Serge, Dave, Raff - thanks! The distance is the upper end of my scale, but probably not a big deal for a lot of people on the board.

As for the ascent route versus the descent route, when I go back (and I will...) I'll just do it from the south. It will be a longer trip, with a couple tricky moves, but it would be way more enjoyable. As you're ascending, you'll know if descending the crux is to your liking or not.

Linda Breton
http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/scrambles.htm

Email: peaksdarkandbright@yahoo.ca

Topic: Northover And Out (1 of 12)
Author: Sonny Bou
Date: Thursday, July 29, 2004 04:12 AM

Last weekend (23-25 JUL 2004), Dan Millar, Edwina (Eddie) Podemski, Chris Wood, Kelly Wood and I completed what Gillean Daffern describes as "the best backpacking trip in K Country" (ie. the Aster Lake to Three Isle Lake traverse via Northover Ridge). I'm inclined to agree with her. Here are some random thoughts about the trip...

Hidden Lake was full to the brim, so we had to take to the rough, bushy, undulating trail contouring the east shoreline. Just curious, has anyone ever gone around the west side of the lake (when the lake is full), and if so, how bad was it?

The abundance of fossils (mostly horn corals) in and around Aster Lake campground is amazing. You could easily idle away hours just fossil hunting.

Couldn't they have put the Aster Lake biffy in a less conspicuous spot? It's a real eyesore in an otherwise beautiful campground.

Beware of porcupines at Aster Lake campground...

The Aster Lake grizzly bear that Andrew mentioned elsewhere in this WebBoard paid us a visit on Saturday morning as we were packing up our camp. It looked like a young adult (not sure about sex), and it didn't seem to be very aggressive. Still, it's probably best to steer clear of this wonderful beast.

I managed to squeeze in a scramble of Mount Northover while my friends took a lunch break at the Northover col. For practicality, I went up Alan Kane's descent route and came back the same way. It's probably only about 250 metres height gain from the col. The upper rock bands on the northwest face are indeed steep and somewhat loose and exposed, but overall, it was easier than I had expected (I almost feel like I cheated by not going up the dreaded south ridge). I missed being the first person to sign the register this year by mere hours. My round-trip time from the col was a little over 1 hour.

The knife-edge section of Northover Ridge resembles an easy scramble, but a few short sections do require some care with the footing especially when carrying a full pack (balance is essential).

Three Isle Lake campground sucks. Some of the people that camp there also suck.

The stairs on the headwall guarding Three Isle Lake are harder to descend than the rest of the headwall!

Does anyone know if the Lyautey trail is now deactivated? And if so, why? (this used to be an official connector trail between the Point Campground and the Three Isle Creek bridge)

Sonny Bou
http://members.shaw.ca/ssbou2004/northover.html


Topic: Northover And Out (2 of 12)
Author: Frank Nelson
Date: Thursday, July 29, 2004 11:05 PM

When I went in to climb Joffre, those porcupines knocked over and chewed the handles on my poles to shreds. I was smart enough to keep sweaty/salty boots inside the tent, but overlooked the poles!
Frank

Topic: Northover And Out (3 of 12)
Author: Sonny Bou
Date: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:07 AM

Yeah, those porcupines can be a real nuisance. Van, the guy we met on the Divide, told us a story about someone whose boots were savaged by porcupines. The critters had completely eaten away the entire heel of one of the boots. That person had to resort to using duct tape to 'rebuild' their boot and hike out.

Interestingly enough, the porcupine that attacked my friends last weekend seemed to know where to find the more expensive Komperdell telescoping trekking poles while leaving alone my cheap $10 Colt alpine ski pole. Go figure--a porcupine with good taste!

Sonny
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~ssbou

Topic: Northover And Out (4 of 12)
Author: Andrew Nugara
Date: Friday, July 30, 2004 09:38 AM

Sorry Sonny, I should have warned you about the porcupines. They destroyed the straps on my hiking poles too. I wrote about it on my website description, but since I presently can't edit my site, I guess that doesn't do anyone any good. Congratulations on completing another of the most difficult scrambles in Kane's book.

Andrew

Topic: Northover And Out (5 of 12)
Author: Sonny Bou
Date: Friday, July 30, 2004 05:10 PM

No need to congratulate me, Andrew. Just send money! ;-)

Actually, if anyone deserves congratulations (and maybe money, too), it should be Alan Kane whose route descriptions have proven themselves time and time again.

*****

Okay, I know Dave is camping this weekend and probably won't be checking this board until Tuesday, but I'll tentatively schedule 14 August 2004 anyway as the day for our group scramble to Mount Niles (weather permitting, of course). I'm gonna keep 28 August 2004 open as well as an alternate date. Who's in?

Sonny Bou
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~ssbou

Topic: Northover And Out (6 of 12)
Author: Andrew Nugara
Date: Friday, July 30, 2004 06:53 PM

If guys don't mind my brother and I tagging along, we are definitely in for Niles on the 14th.

Andrew

Topic: Northover And Out (7 of 12)
Author: Frank Nelson
Date: Saturday, July 31, 2004 04:18 PM

The 14th is fine for me. Peter will have to get work off; if he doesn't, Vittorio will fill his place, I'm sure.
Frank

Topic: Northover And Out (8 of 12)
Author: Bob Spirko
Date: Monday, August 02, 2004 09:59 AM

If there's room, Sonny, can you add Dinah and I to your Niles trip list?

Topic: Northover And Out (9 of 12)
Author: Dave Stephens
Date: Monday, August 02, 2004 08:33 PM

Sorry guys. I am doing Mt. Cline as a day trip on the 15th. That will require me to be in Nordegg on the 14th. I'd love to go on the 28th, but given the amount of coordination involved, don't worry about rescheduling for me.

By the way Frank... what happened to your foot?


Dave Stephens
www.dave-stephens.com

Topic: Northover And Out (10 of 12)
Author: Gillean Daffern
Date: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:01 AM

Sonny asked about Lyautey trail. It was closed many years
ago because of conflict with bears apparently. Not sure
what condition it is in now, but hope to find out later this
month. We so dislike the fire road section of Three Isle
Lake trail we thought of paddling across Upper K Lake to
the inlet beyond Point campground and picking up
Lyautey there and using it as a shortcut. If anyone does it
in the meantime let me know, OK?

Topic: Northover And Out (11 of 12)
Author: Deleted User
Date: Thursday, August 05, 2004 09:44 PM

I have camped at the point many times this summer, and paddled across, the little inlet at the west end of u.k. lake is pretty fast, but lots of places to leave a canoe, on the south shore. I'll be there on saturday and sunday again.

Eric
http://groups.msn.com/scramblesintherockies

Topic: Northover And Out (12 of 12)
Author: Gillean Daffern
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 07:33 PM

More on Lyautey trail. Most of it�s in good shape. The odd
fallen tree to step over or go around. Obviously still
being used. The part that�s not so good is the boggy
south end and that�s because the bridges and boardwalk
have been removed!!! (I wish K Country would consult with
users before doing things like this). Still, the first two
streams can be crossed on logs. The third one we
paddled. Maybe in a dry summer it can be crossed on the
submerged log....

This is still a useful access trail if you�re camped at Point
Campground or have paddled across Upper K Lake. How
many people do this I wonder? For those wanting to do a
paddle/scramble you can put in at the head of the inlet
just under Lower K Falls. The round the lake trail is just a
few metres away.

Topic: Why you don't want to fall off Northover... (1 of 40)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:56 AM

I was looking at my photos from last year and this one kind of jumped out at me.



Another one from the same trip (Cliffs along the way from Warrior to Cordonnier):



Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com

Topic: Why you don't want to fall off Northover... (2 of 40)
Author: Kyle Oak
Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 09:24 PM

Hey Vern,

I was looking at that Skoki picture on your home page the other day, it is one of the neatest pictures on the Canadian Rockies I have ever seen. The contrasting color of the trees, and the parallel between Temples' East Ridge and the Louise ski hill really stands out.

Must go into Skoki one day...

Kyle Oak

Topic: Why you don't want to fall off Northover... (3 of 40)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:25 PM

Thanks Kyle - that's one of my favorites too. It almost looks fake but actually the color were amazing that day and the view was incredible.

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com

Topic: Why you don't want to fall off Northover... (4 of 40)
Author: Marko Stavric
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 08:05 AM

If I had to fall off a peak, that one wouldn't be too bad. At least you know the result, you can lean back and enjoy the show. :)

I've been in a couple of situations where I've gotten myself in a difficult spot on a scramble and wondered "What am I doing here?" Your write up for Northover along with the photos makes me cringe. :)

Topic: Why you don't want to fall off Northover... (5 of 40)
Author: Ken Takabe
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:22 AM

Sorry to hijack your thread but here's a picture of the backside of the summit ridge on Lady MacDonald. As you can see, there's no room for error.

If you look carefully, you can see my partner in the white shirt standing on the crest to the right of a cairn.



Topic: Why you don't want to fall off Northover... (6 of 40)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:21 PM

Damn that Northover is beautiful, sigh. Cool picture Vern, you have a good eye for the B&W world.


Linda Breton
http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/scrambles.htm

Email: peaksdarkandbright@yahoo.ca

Topic: Why you don't want to fall off Northover... (7 of 40)
Author: Marko Stavric
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 05:02 PM

That section with the corner slab looks quite nasty in the photos. Is it as bad as it looks?

PS. Who wants to pitch in to buy Linda some web hosting without pop-ups? :)

Topic: Free Webhosting (8 of 40)
Author: Sonny Bou
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 06:12 PM

I've already talked to Linda about this, but freewebtown (http://www.freewebtown.com/community/index.php) is probably one of the best free webhosting services available. They recently upgraded their services to allow up to 2 Gigabytes of free webspace (I've moved practically my entire website to freewebtown now). As far as I can tell, there haven't been any banners or pop-ups/unders (check out my site if you don't believe me). There are some bandwidth limits, but unless you're Dave Stephens, who gets something like a million hits a day, it shouldn't be a problem.

Sonny
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~ssbou

Topic: Free Webhosting (9 of 40)
Author: Kyle Oak
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 07:50 PM

Lets make this a post your favorite pics thread. Here are a few of my favorite pictures I took this winter.


The Lovely Tamsen and I at Chester Lake. I had just fell over running back to make the picture in time!


Much Nicer than in the Summer!

Kyle Oak


Topic: Best Pics (10 of 40)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 08:55 PM

Good idea Kyle! Nice pics!

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com

Topic: Best Pics (11 of 40)
Author: Wietse Bylsma
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 09:02 PM

Couple of my favourites


On Yukness last fall with Vern and Sonny


Mt. Windtour from King Creek Ridge


2 scramblers on the downclimb on Big Sister


From the summit of Ha Lin Peak

Wietse Bylsma
http://www.rockies4u.ca

Topic: Best Pics (12 of 40)
Author: Marko Stavric
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2007 08:34 AM

This is my friend's pic of me on Eiffel Peak. I really like it and use it as my background:


Topic: Best Pics (13 of 40)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2007 08:42 AM

Excellent guys - let's see some more!

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com

Topic: Best Pics (14 of 40)
Author: Marko Stavric
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2007 09:39 AM

I might have posted this one before. It's Mike on the summit of Mount Fable.


Topic: Best Pics (15 of 40)
Author: Mike Warren
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:25 AM

Didn't do too many scrambles last year, but I kinda like these pictures from the "other" south ridge of Lorette:

Topic: Best Pics (16 of 40)
Author: Ken Takabe
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:07 PM

Here are a few pics from this past summer.

I sure hope none of you are on dial-up. :)

The first of course is Moraine Lake from the Tower of Babel. The second is a shot from my bicycle tour. It's a shot of my friend cycling towards the Columbia Icefields with the snowcoach in the distance.




Topic: Best Pics (17 of 40)
Author: Wietse Bylsma
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2007 02:22 PM

I like this, now I don't have to go to everybodies website to check out all the tripreports

Wietse Bylsma
http://www.rockies4u.ca

Topic: Free Webhosting (18 of 40)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2007 09:55 AM

Marko, I can't believe you didn't take advantage of that free laptop offer for being the 1,000,000,000th visitor? :-) Yeah, I've been looking at alternatives to that obnoxious webhost, I just haven't had time to deal with it yet. Soon...

Nice pics everyone, keep 'em coming. Will try to contribute some of mine later.



Linda Breton
http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/scrambles.htm

Email: peaksdarkandbright@yahoo.ca

Topic: Best Pics (19 of 40)
Author: Taras K
Date: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:04 AM

Ramparts in Tonquin Valley Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

Topic: Best Pics (20 of 40)
Author: Mountain Ninja
Date: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:16 AM

My favourite photographs from 2006:


Looking through a window at Mt. Assiniboine
Walking into the abyss on Mt. Cline
Huge cornice on Mt. Collie

The early morning sun lights up Mt. Cromwell
Two mountain goats and the Three Sisters
Spider at Quartzite Col

Exhillirating ridge on Mt. St. Nicholas

Descending Mt. Columbia



Topic: Best Pics (21 of 40)
Author: Andrew Nugara
Date: Friday, February 16, 2007 07:25 AM

Awesome pictures guys! Great idea for a new thread.

Mike, your pics of �the other south ridge of Lorette� certainly caught my attention. Is that the ridge that lies east of the standard 5.4 ridge and descent gully? Is it a scramble or technical climb? Looks really cool.

Andrew

Topic: Best Pics (22 of 40)
Author: Marko Stavric
Date: Friday, February 16, 2007 01:41 PM

These photos make me very excited for the summer.

That photo from Mount Cline looks awesome. At first glance I thought it was the "Dragon's back" from Rundle. It looks quite mythical/spiritual.

Topic: Best Pics (23 of 40)
Author: Dave MacDonald
Date: Saturday, February 17, 2007 07:56 PM

This one was taken by Sonny...

Warrior Mtn, me in the spec on the snow...



Dave MacDonald
http://macdonald.typepad.com

Topic: Best Pics (24 of 40)
Author: Frank Nelson
Date: Saturday, February 17, 2007 08:10 PM

Thanks for posting that pic, Dave. I've been meaning to ask Sonny for a large version of it. Now I just have to actually get around to trying Lyautey.
Frank

Topic: Best Pics (25 of 40)
Author: Jason Wilcox
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 05:07 PM

Hey Cal,
I've never tried it but apparently if you just put in the URL it does it automatically.
I'll try it:



Jason Wilcox

Topic: Best Pics (26 of 40)
Author: Jason Wilcox
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 05:09 PM

It works! Just copy the http.... out of the browser and as long as the page you are referencing contains a jpeg image it will post it for you automatically.

Jason Wilcox

Topic: Best Pics (27 of 40)
Author: Wietse Bylsma
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 06:02 PM

Sure, send them to me and I will put them somewhere on my site and post it for you.

Wietse Bylsma
http://www.rockies4u.ca

Topic: Best Pics (28 of 40)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 07:07 AM

Love the third one Calvin!

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com

Topic: Best Pics (29 of 40)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 08:08 PM

Cal, those are nice photos! I did not realize Cauldron Lake was so beautiful, that photo provides inspiration to go visit it.


Linda Breton
http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/scrambles.htm

Email: peaksdarkandbright@yahoo.ca

Topic: Best Pics (30 of 40)
Author: Taras K
Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 09:21 PM

Caldron Lake is one of my most favorite places in the Rockies. I'm planning to go there again this summer exploring surrounding areas and possibly scrambling Mt. Mistaya and Caldron Peak. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

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Topic: Best Pics (31 of 40)
Author: Mike Warren
Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:07 PM

On 2/16/2007 7:25:00 AM, Andrew Nugara wrote:

>Mike, your pics of �the other
>south ridge of Lorette�
>certainly caught my attention.
>Is that the ridge that lies
>east of the standard 5.4 ridge
>and descent gully? Is it a
>scramble or technical climb?
>Looks really cool.

Yes, it's the one east of the 5.4 climb from "Selected". I'd call it a scramble, although there is a bit of hands-on stuff. We didn't take a rope or rock shoes and made it fine (easier, for example, than the "ESE ridge of lady macdonald" [which is also quite fun]).

You also get to check out the fantastically runout steep slab climbs on the way up :) ("lorette slabs" I think).

Cheers,
mike



Topic: Best Pics (32 of 40)
Author: Marko Stavric
Date: Thursday, February 22, 2007 11:05 AM

It seems you just can't go wrong with anything you do off the Icefields Parkway. I haven't done much, my last one was Cirque Peak, but I'm looking forward to doing more scrambles there this summer.

Here's one from Cirque Peak, my friend Emilie in the photo.


Here's one of the Caldron Lake drainage, with my friend Blanka in the photo.

Topic: Best Pics (33 of 40)
Author: Taras K
Date: Thursday, February 22, 2007 04:09 PM

I forgot to add that most people would prefer visiting Caldron Lake after the end of July, when snow disappears from a part of the route just below Peyto Peak (far left on Marko's picture). It's the crux of the trip, if snow lingers there I think any slip can be pretty dangerous - slopes below are very steep so self-arrest may not work.

Topic: Best Pics (34 of 40)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Thursday, February 22, 2007 05:08 PM

Nice to see the other views of the Cauldron area! It looks like a great place to explore. :)

Taras, thanks for the tip on the best time of year to visit, good to know.


Linda Breton
http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/scrambles.htm

Email: peaksdarkandbright@yahoo.ca

Topic: Best Pics (35 of 40)
Author: Dave Stephens
Date: Thursday, February 22, 2007 05:22 PM

Last spring (when I wasn't tied to a ski resort), Blair and I made an attempt at Mt. Mistaya via Caldron Lake. We ascended to Caldron Lake on climber's right of the waterfalls draining out of Caldron Lake.

While Caldron Lake seems nice in the summer, a trip in the winter is pretty neat too. Plus, you get to ski down Delta Creek (between Patterson and Caldron).

Here is the link to my trip report and pictures:

http://www.dave-stephens.com/touring/icefieldspkwy/mistaya/mistaya1.htm



Dave Stephens
www.dave-stephens.com

Topic: Best Pics (36 of 40)
Author: Calvin Damen
Date: Thursday, February 22, 2007 07:30 PM

Hi Dave,

I just read your trip report from Mistaya and I must say you have some beautiful photos of winter scenery in that area. After hearing how you guys got to the lake, I was curious how hard you think it would be to do the same route in the summer. I can see the dozens of water crossings being a pain, but I guess if you did so by Peyto Lake they wouldn't be as deep. The reason I am asking is I really didn't like part of the other option to get there. The trail is fun until just minutes before the lake. At that point you are right below Peyto Peak on a narrow trail which traverses a steep side-slope with hard packed dirt and small pebbles which could easily transport you over the nearby cliffs if you slipped. I don't have a problem with exposure, but in this case I just don't think you could self-arrest on that slope even in the summer. It could be I am more nervous about situations like that now because I have two small children to take care of. Anyway let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Cal

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Author: Dave Stephens
Date: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:14 PM

Hey Cal - I agree that the way Blair and I went is safer than the left side of the waterfall. Frank and Pete went up to Caldron Lake in May by going on the left side of the waterfall. Checkout their page as well:

http://robson3954.tripod.com/id63.html

Maybe Frank could shed some more light on his thoughts. As for the summer route, I think the problem would be walking around the lake instead of just skiing across it. Once you're across Peyto Lake, it's just a hike up to Caldron Lake.



Dave Stephens
www.dave-stephens.com

Topic: Best Pics (38 of 40)
Author: Calvin Damen
Date: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:35 PM

Thanks for the advice Dave,

I definitely want to go up there again, I just was hoping there was a safer route. Once you are up in that Caldron Lake Basin there are so many great options for scrambling (or ski-mountaineering!).

Cal

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Author: Frank Nelson
Date: Friday, February 23, 2007 10:50 AM

I've been into Caldron lake a couple of times, once at the end of May and once in the middle of June. Both times we went up up the moraine and traversed in. In May Pete and I had to climb up to the cliffs on Peyto and down climb over a cornice to gain a 'safe' distance on the headwall cliffs. The second time in June of last year we stayed close to the summer trail, and crossed some crappy steep snow. Both times it probably would have been tits up if you slipped without a well planted axe.

https://webdisk.ucalgary.ca/~vspoldi/public_html/WEBSITE/PicturePages/2006/Caldron17-18June06.htm

http://robson12972.tripod.com/id31.html
Frank

Topic: Best Pics (40 of 40)
Author: Taras K
Date: Friday, February 23, 2007 06:50 PM

When the route is dry (normally after the end of July) it's quite safe even for the hiker. The Copelands list it as a moderate day hike in their "Don't Waste Your Time in the Canadian Rockies". I know quite a few hikers who did it without any problems. It should pose no difficulties for the scrambler. Personally, I wouldn't attempt it if there is any lingering snow or it's wet.