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Topic "Sheol and McGilvary (sp) (1 of 8)" started by Jp S on Aug-26-2007
Topic "Mount McGillivray (1 of 1)" started by Andrew Nugara on Oct-27-2003
Topic "Mcgillvary (1 of 16)" started by Bill Kerr on Jul-02-2005
Topic "Scramble route up East face McGillivray? (1 of 11)" started by Parry Loeffler on Sep-19-2005
Topic "Mount McGillivray (1 of 17)" started by Ben Bwards on Jun-17-2007

Topic: Mount McGillivray (1 of 17)
Author: Ben Bwards
Date: Sunday, June 17, 2007 03:07 PM

On Saturday Mike Fisher, Parry Loeffler and I set out to ascend Mount McGillivray in total whiteout conditions. I had heard many tales from this mountain of horrid side hilling, bivouacs, getting cliffed out, long marches reaching 13 hours. So I was very excited when I read Sandra McGuinness report on bivouac of a 7 hour RT route up the west side from Skogan Pass. We set off at a sensible time reaching GR277527 and dumped the bikes and headed up a minor valley following some old trails. We descended the other side and headed up a ridge until reaching GR286528 at which point we descended into the creek on the south side of McGillivray. As we could not see anything we blindly head up the slope hoping to hit the SW Ridge. Our GPS skills where somewhat lacking and we hit the SE ridge. After monkeying around, difficult up and down scrambling, we finally gave up on the SE ridge. After losing a bunch of elevation we found a moderate route up the SW ridge. 6:15 up and under 3 down but this could be decrease to under 5hrs if we had hit the SW ridge to start out with. A fun bike decent down Skogan trail capped the day off. The register was sopping wet and needs to be replaced.

Ben Wards

Topic: Mount McGillivray (2 of 17)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Sunday, June 17, 2007 08:29 PM

Here's my GPS track in Google Earth. I didn't bring the camera so no pictures. Parry did though, so hopefully he'll share. The track will show a few of our meanderings.

It wasn't the most enjoyable scramble ever. Too much slogging, not enough scrambling but I do think this route would be way better than the side-hilling on the more frequently travelled route. And the ride down from Skogan Pass was a very nice way to finish the day. Not often do I check my GPS to find a top speed of 35.1 km/h on a scrambling trip!


http://picasaweb.google.com/miscellaneousmike/MountMcGillivray?authkey=EhwnxiH279c


Topic: Mount McGillivray (3 of 17)
Author: Ken Takabe
Date: Sunday, June 17, 2007 09:53 PM

Way to go guys! I wasted away my Saturday watching the Red Sox play the Giants.

I've always thought about doing McGillivray via Skogan Pass but didn't read a route description until now. Some pictures would be great!

I've done the pass using a mountain bike before although I did it via Nakiska. Awesome ride coming down!

Topic: Mount McGillivray (4 of 17)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Monday, June 18, 2007 07:35 AM

Cool! I've been wanting to do this one for a while and a shorter day with no side-hill bashing sounds great!

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com
http://www.pbase.com/vdewit

Topic: Mount McGillivray (5 of 17)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Monday, June 18, 2007 09:57 AM

Well done guys in a whiteout. We had read Sandra's report and looked down at the SW ridge from the summit and later from the side. Did you have to come around on a ledge and work your way up the left(north) side of the SW ridge. Here is a pic of the north side of the SW ridge taken from the west slopes below the main ridge.



bill.kerr@shaw.ca
http://www.billkerr.ca

Topic: Mount McGillivray (6 of 17)
Author: Blanka Cabicarova
Date: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:09 AM

It looks like I missed a really adventurous trip! I checked out the photos - nice! :) I don't see any link here so I hope you don't mind sharing it, Parry!?

http://picasaweb.google.com/summitguy/20070616MtMcGillivray

Blanka

Topic: Mount McGillivray (7 of 17)
Author: Parry Loeffler
Date: Monday, June 18, 2007 01:20 PM

Ya, sharing photos is all goooood. We spent so much time in the white-out that I was surprised I got so many reasonable shots.

Parry
http://www.parryloeffler.com

Topic: Mount McGillivray (8 of 17)
Author: Mountain Ninja
Date: Monday, June 18, 2007 02:01 PM

Excellent work! You guys are hardcore!


Topic: Mount McGillivray (9 of 17)
Author: Sandra Mcguinness
Date: Monday, June 18, 2007 08:07 PM

You know this west side scramble route is really straight forward. In clear weather you just follow your nose. Not sure where all the "southwest ridge" is coming from because there is no sw ridge on McGillivray. Maybe my route report is hideously unclear.

Topic: Mount McGillivray (10 of 17)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Monday, June 18, 2007 10:40 PM

Sandra - From the main summit of McGillivray there is a small ridge that runs down WSW(shown from the north in my pic above). In your trip description you start out on the South side of the mountain and traverse left/west and then North around this minor ridge? to below the main summit? You then gain the main North/south ridge and the summit.(Note: edited from previous)
I think that is what these guys did but they may gone around onto the SW ridge before going to the summit. A picture of the GPS track would help.

bill.kerr@shaw.ca
http://www.billkerr.ca

Topic: Mount McGillivray (11 of 17)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 07:04 AM

Here you go Bill. Hope this helps. I clipped a bit of the track from the Skogan Pass parking lot in order to focus more on the summit area for you. I don't recall a scree ledge, more of a scree slope below the summit when going from the south side to the north of the summit block.

And Sandra, your report was very clear, no worries there. Thanks for posting it! We got a little off track a few times but only because we couldn't see very far ahead. When the clouds lifted on descent, the route from summit to the valley was very obvious.




Topic: Mount McGillivray (12 of 17)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 09:38 AM

Thanks Mike - from the GPS track and your pics/descriptions you did go over the SW ridge and go up the north/left side of it to the summit. Not sure where. (Edited)
Possible spots shown on this picture.
Any of this jog any memories?



bill.kerr@shaw.ca
http://www.billkerr.ca

Topic: Mount McGillivray (13 of 17)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 09:50 AM

Bill, your red line looks very close to a similar pic with route I did up yesterday. I was going to post it but ended up questioning whether the angle I thought I saw in your pic was in fact the angle from where you took it. Either way, you have it about right as far as I can tell. Ben, Parry - does that look right? Ben's internal compass was working pretty good that day, so he may have a definitive answer.

Topic: Mount McGillivray (14 of 17)
Author: Marko Stavric
Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 05:00 PM

The Ben Positioning System (BPS)? He kept talking about it in Waterton. I thought he was making things up. :)

Topic: Mount McGillivray (15 of 17)
Author: Sandra Mcguinness
Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 05:10 PM

I have no recollection of doing that long, nasty looking side hill traverse.

If I was smart, I could post a map of my route in here, but unfortunately, I'm not that smart. My recollection is going pretty much up the south ridge, but, as the south ridge has some ups and downs on it, we walked along the base of the ups and downs to save time/energy.

Anyway, you guys did well doing it in a total whiteout.


Topic: Mount McGillivray (16 of 17)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 09:30 PM

Sandra - sounds like I was mistaken on how far around to the North that you traversed and how close you were to the summit.
From the top we didn't see an obvious easy route up the south side and Mike and crew came around to the west side.
Overall it does sound like a shorter route than doing the whole summit ridge.

bill.kerr@shaw.ca
http://www.billkerr.ca

Topic: Mount McGillivray (17 of 17)
Author: Parry Loeffler
Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 09:37 AM

Yes, Bill and Mike, that red line showing the last bit going over the ridge and up the summit block looks like the route we took.

Parry

Topic: Scramble route up East face McGillivray? (1 of 11)
Author: Parry Loeffler
Date: Monday, September 19, 2005 07:01 PM

Hey all...

I've always eyed the east face of McGillivray from the highway and while scrambling Heart. Decided to give it a try Sunday.

Got shut down at a last rock band about 50m from the summit where it got a little on the 5ish side. Since I was alone, I thought it best to retreat.

I thought I saw some evidence of others on the rock and was wondering if anyone has been up that way successfully doing a scramble route? I'm sure that if sane folks were up there, they were roped...

To get to the face I was on:

I went beyond the headwall at the end of the tourist trail by skirting left, then descended down to rejoin the creek. From there I walked a couple minutes, then took a tributary right (about 25m before the creek narrows to a canyon with more waterfall action).

Walked the stoney tributary until a large waterfalled wall. Went up and over on the left... continued up left, gaining the ridge after a few hundred meters.

From there, there seemed to be 2 short pitches of rock band to solve. Got up the first via a low 5ish weakness just to the left of the ridge. The second was the problem - 5ish again, but a little higher. Tried in two places and even got halfway up both. Got concerned about the idea of soloing, so aborted both before committing fully.

Parry

Topic: Scramble route up East face McGillivray? (2 of 11)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Monday, September 19, 2005 07:23 PM

Hey Parry,

I'm not sure why everyone thinks that McGillivray is tough or even impossible as a scramble. (Unless I'm thinking of a different mountain! ;-))

I've never actually done it but if you look on Bennett's site he has a good route description complete with a GPS track that I plan on using one of these days.

http://snow.prohosting.com/bennettw/scrambles/mt_mcgillivray/mt_mcgillivray.htm

Bennett generally doesn't do really crazy scrambles so by reading his description I don't get the feeling that this one is especially tough. (By his route)

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com

Topic: Scramble route up East face McGillivray? (3 of 11)
Author: Dave Stephens
Date: Monday, September 19, 2005 07:36 PM

Bennett went up the NW route. The east face route is a bit tougher. I think Bill Kerr ascended the east face.


Dave Stephens
www.dave-stephens.com

Topic: Scramble route up East face McGillivray? (4 of 11)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Monday, September 19, 2005 07:40 PM

Ahhh - I missed that bit! As a scrambler I don't pay much attention to the route, only the destination! ;-)

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com

Topic: Scramble route up East face McGillivray? (5 of 11)
Author: Dave Stephens
Date: Monday, September 19, 2005 08:26 PM

I'll have you converted yet!!!



Dave Stephens
www.dave-stephens.com

Topic: Scramble route up East face McGillivray? (6 of 11)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:37 PM

We climbed(5.3 to 5.5) over two rock bands on the east face about 200 m to the left of the north end of the ridge. I am not sure but it sounds like you started up from the valley at the south end of the Heart creek trail. I do not know of anyone who has tried to scramble the East face in the middle of the ridge. We did look at several possibilities on the East face to descend to the Heart valley as we came back along the ridge as there was signs of sheep passage but it looked very steep and loose. As Vern notes there is a scramble route on the NW side and also one from the SW in Bivouac.

Topic: Scramble route up East face McGillivray? (7 of 11)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 09:57 AM

I've heard of a few people scrambling up via the Heart Creek side. Bob Parr has done it this way. (Bob, you now have two topics waiting for you...:-) )

Linda Breton

Topic: Scramble route up East face McGillivray? (8 of 11)
Author: Bob Parr
Date: Thursday, September 22, 2005 08:57 AM

I did McGillivray from the east side by going up the valley directly west of the main summit of Heart Mtn. Sorry, but I don't have a topo map handy for an exact reference. But you end up intersecting the summit ridge a hundred metres north of the summit. There's some slabby terrain to traverse just below this and then an 8-10 foot wall to surmount to get onto the top of the ridge itself but it shouldn't be a problem for anyone with good scrambling skills.

Topic: Scramble route up East face McGillivray? (9 of 11)
Author: Rod Mcalister
Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 03:47 PM

It sounds like you are on the route described by greg in the underground guide to the kananaskis(2005). A prominent east ridge, mostly 4th class with a bit of 5th.Access via heart creek.

Topic: Scramble route up East face McGillivray? (10 of 11)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 03:54 PM

And where do we go to view or get a copy of this guide?

Topic: Scramble route up East face McGillivray? (11 of 11)
Author: Dave Stephens
Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 04:25 PM

I think you can get a copy of Greg's "book" at Wicked Gravity. Phone Dave Campbell or Sara Whatshername at Wicked Gravity (in Bowness). If they don't have it, they know where you can get it. It's also been mentioned on LTV a few times. You could check there too, but it's probably easier to just phone Dave.

It's not really a book. It's a self-printed package that Greg put together, but he didn't want to deal with publishers, so he just put it all together, printed it out, stapled it together, and he only charges around $2 or something like that.


Dave Stephens
www.dave-stephens.com

Topic: Mcgillvary (1 of 16)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Saturday, July 02, 2005 06:27 PM

Gary and I did McGillvary on Friday. We went up the north ridge in the trees from the highway and around to the east side when we hit the rock wall/buttress. Went up the 5.3? groove alongside the old gray rope. I would rate it more as a 5.5/5.6 given how thin and frictiony the footholds were and I was too scared to touch the old rope. The station now has 3 pins so it is secure. There is one more 5.3 section and then you gain the ridge. Great traverse staying right on the ridge across the first peak and on to the main/south peak where there are 3 -4 spots of 5.2/5.3ish moves to gain the peak. Note that Van Belliveau was there the previous weekend. Great ridge scramble in good weather. Tried to find the scramble route down the west side to the valley but went down several wrong gullies and wasted some time and energy. If you didn't come up the west side I doubt you can find it as there can only be one spot to get through and we could find no cairns or signs of passage. The south scramble route looked better from the peak but of course would be a longer approach but more direct access to the peak itself.

Topic: Mcgillvary (2 of 16)
Author: Andrew Nugara
Date: Sunday, July 03, 2005 08:47 AM

Hey Bill,

Congratulations on the McGillivray ascent. I�m glad I�m not the only one who thought that the first 5.3 rockstep is underrated. The rock was wet when we did the route and as you point out, the holds are very small. I found myself grabbing onto that old rope several times. I�m glad it held!

Thanks for the info regarding the west descent route. I�ve thought about going up the east side and descending the west, but it sounds like more trouble than it�s worth.

Andrew

Topic: Mcgillvary (3 of 16)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:42 AM

Andrew - I am glad I didn't have to do that first section when it was wet and of course that rope is a couple years older now so I didn't want to use it. The west side route looks apparent in the small picture on bivouac but we couldn't find it from above. Then we had to grind back up the scree to the ridge which added a few hours to the day. When we looked back from the north end of the ridge we could see there was one section that looked like it might go but it looked slabby, rubble covered and downsloping. The ridge itself is quite enjoyable and would be popular if the climbing section wasn't there.

Topic: Mcgillvary (4 of 16)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Sunday, July 03, 2005 12:38 PM

Bill, good job on McGillivray! I've been thinking about doing that one this year. Are you going to put pictures up from your trip?

Linda Breton

Topic: Mcgillvary (5 of 16)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Sunday, July 03, 2005 02:53 PM

I will try get some pics on the site. Also spell it correctly.

Topic: Mcgillvary (6 of 16)
Author: Sandra Mcguinness
Date: Sunday, July 03, 2005 05:14 PM

There is a good scramble route up from Skogan Pass, with a mountain bike you can do it return in 6 hours. There is one short section that is probably 3rd class into a gully to the summit. No rope required and coming from the south the route is reasonably obvious.

Topic: Mcgillvary (7 of 16)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Sunday, July 03, 2005 06:18 PM

The beauty of GPS is that if you go to Bennett's site and download his GPS track you can presumably scramble McGillivray no problem. I haven't actually tried it yet but am planning to this summer.

http://snow.prohosting.com/bennettw/scrambles/mt_mcgillivray/mt_mcgillivray.htm

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresho2.com

Topic: Mcgillvary (8 of 16)
Author: Dave Stephens
Date: Sunday, July 03, 2005 06:43 PM

Speaking of Van Belliveau, does anybody know if he's related to the 53 year old Gregg Belliveau? Gregg died this weekend on Mt. Smuts, and I'd like to extend our sympathy. Does anybody remember Van's website address?


Dave Stephens
www.dave-stephens.com

Topic: Mcgillvary (9 of 16)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Sunday, July 03, 2005 09:16 PM

Do not know if they are related. Any accident details?

Sandra - The route from the south did look good and should be more popular although the ridge route is fun.

Vern - I wish I had seen Bennets site before we went and I guess we should buy a GPS.

Topic: Death On Mount Smuts (10 of 16)
Author: Sonny Bou
Date: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:32 PM

Here's the article from the Calgary Sun:

Hiker likely at peak before deadly fall
By SARAH KENNEDY, CALGARY SUN


Police have identified a Calgary man killed while hiking in Kananaskis Country.

Gregg Belliveau, 53, had been hiking Mount Smuts in Peter Lougheed Provincial Park when he fell 120 metres from the summit, said Kananaskis RCMP Cpl. Phil Wilson.

"Belliveau was an experienced hiker who had recently taken up the sport of rock scrambling," said Wilson.

The outdoor enthusiast had planned a hiking, mountain biking and rock climbing day trip in the area Thursday, near Mount Engadine Lodge.

He had been climbing alone but friends were scheduled to meet with him later in the day. When he didn't show up, his friends went to the lodge to call his family and see if they had heard from him, said lodge employee Natalie Mathis.

Belliveau was reported missing to police after 8 p.m. and a search was launched.

At 7 a.m. Friday, Belliveau's body was found on the western slope of Mount Smuts by Fish and Wildlife officers with the help of a helicopter from Canmore's Alpine Helicopters Ltd.

It's believe Belliveau reached the summit and then fell. Belliveau's wife declined comment yesterday.

*****

If I were to guess, I would say that Belliveau probably fell trying to downclimb the alternate descent route. Either he was off-route or the descent gully still had a lot of snow and/or ice in it which would make it extremely dangerous to descend without technical gear.

Sonny Bou
http://www.ucalgary.ca

Topic: Mcgillvary (11 of 16)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:15 PM

Kind of sobering considering that I was trying to convince Dave that we should attempt Smuts last Friday...

My sympathies go out to anyone reading this board that may have known him.

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresho2.com

Topic: Mcgillvary (12 of 16)
Author: Kyle Oak
Date: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:42 PM

I didn't hear anything about this accident until today. From the small article I read in the paper, the man was on the west side of Mt. Smuts on Thursday when the accident occured. In the Red Deer paper the victims full name was Gregg Van Belliveau. I am not sure if this is the Van Belliveau that frequents this site and cannot confirm anything.

This sounds like a very unfortunate accident and my thoughts go out to Greggs family and friends.

Topic: Van Belliveau (13 of 16)
Author: Sonny Bou
Date: Monday, July 04, 2005 12:34 AM

If Kyle's info is correct, it must be Van. The coincidence is too great, and the article said that he was 53 years old which would be about right. I met Van last summer as he was coming down from Mount Northover after a successful solo ascent.

My sympathies go out to his family and friends.

Sonny Bou

Topic: Van Belliveau (14 of 16)
Author: Bob Spirko
Date: Monday, July 04, 2005 08:50 AM

An obituary in today's Calgary Herald begins:

BELLIVEAU - G. "Van"
Van Belliveau, beloved husband of Joan Belliveau of Calgary, passed away
tragically on July 1, 2005 at the age of 53 years.

I exchanged email with Van recently and the sender's name was "Joan Belliveau."

I'm saddened to hear of his sudden passing and extend my sympathies.

Bob Spirko

Topic: Van Belliveau (15 of 16)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Monday, July 04, 2005 10:05 AM

This is tragic and a sober reminder to us all to be careful and safe out there.
My sympathies to his family and friends.

Topic: Van Belliveau (16 of 16)
Author: Bob Spirko
Date: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 08:12 PM

I just talked to someone who attended Van's wake (my friend knew his wife Joan and friends of his but had never met Van). Van's pack was found on the summit. It was typical of him to remove his pack on the summit and take photos. After the helicopter located his pack they were able to quickly find his body.

Bob Spirko

Topic: Mount McGillivray (1 of 1)
Author: Andrew Nugara
Date: Monday, October 27, 2003 07:45 PM

My brother and I summitted (almost!)Mount McGillivray on Sunday October 26. We took the east side ascent route, as described by Tony Swain on the Bivouac web site. The ascent involves some routefinding and bushwhacking at the beginning, a fairly long hike up to the summit block, a couple of pitches of 5.3 climbing and a very pleasant ridgewalk to the summit. Unfortunately, we were in danger of running out of daylight, and had to turn back about 20-30 minutes from the summit.

A rope has graciously been left hanging down the first and most difficult pitch of climbing. It looks old, but is well anchored at the top to several pitons, and I have to admit, I grabbed it more than once while ascending. It's a fun day out and the view from the summit ridge is surprisingly good.Description and pictures on my web site will be up within the next week.

http://earth.prohosting.com/drew42/mcgill.html

Andrew Nugara

Topic: Sheol and McGilvary (sp) (1 of 8)
Author: Jp S
Date: Sunday, August 26, 2007 08:50 PM

I did two less enjoyable scrambles last week.

Sheol - justly unpopular

This scramble has worse views than any of the other scrambles in the Lake Louise area that I have done. (The only one I have left is Panorama.)

Also - descending to the summit is anti-climatic.

The hardest part can be avoided by taking the right hand branch and angling below the top yellow rock bands (new cairns, also see Kane photo). It's close to an easy if you do this.

We scrambled some very sketchy friable yellow rock (difficult and not recommended) to overcome the yellow band - then we simply had to descend the shaley ledges and continue descending to the summit.

Sheol has seen only 20 some parties in the last 14 years - justly unpopular. Do the other lake Louise scrambles first.

McGilvary (sp) - my new least favorite scramble

Wander through bush. Side slope giant slope of shitty talus. Scramble 5 minutes. Side giant slope of shitty talus. Scramble endless slab with scree and eventually gain the ridge - not enjoyable. Our time to here a slow 6 hours.

After all of this one of our party gave up.

The masochists who carried on did not follow the ridge because of wind. Instead we side sloped generally shitty talus and slabs (again) to the gray band leading up to the summit. Followed this hand rail (the first fun of the day!). Then it got difficult for (15 metres) but to my pleasant surprise we summitted.

The move-by-move. First a short two step traverse of relatively blank slab into a cave - do not fall. Then high step out of the cave (good luck if you are under 5'10) - really do not fall. (on the way down I did a different move a few feet higher up) And finally a walk up a slab with few handholds - really really do not fall (this last bit can be avoided on the way down). Many parties may want a rope.

Time about 11.5 hours. This was exhausting and very dull. I would not recommend it at all. The side sloping was murder on my knees (not to mention my new Trangos).

I must admit that I was a little slow because, when we first felt the wind after the trees, I thought we would never summit. So others will be faster. The belief that we would not summit affected my enjoyment - but I still have to say this is my new least favorite scramble. You can find something much more enjoyable to do in 10-11 hours or less (ex Opal).

jp

Topic: Sheol and McGilvary (sp) (2 of 8)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Monday, August 27, 2007 06:50 AM

Are you talking about McGillivray? (In the Bow Valley?)

Because if you are, there was recently some postings about a much more enjoyable (and shorter) route from Skogan Pass.

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com
http://verndewit.zenfolio.com/

Topic: Sheol and McGilvary (sp) (3 of 8)
Author: Jp S
Date: Monday, August 27, 2007 03:16 PM

Yeah - the Bow Valley peak. We did the route in the new scrambles book so my comments do not apply to the Skogan pass route. Looks like the routes hook up at the very end. None of us were aware of a different scramble route, which is really too bad.

Geez, I thought I spend too much time on this board and I still miss information. Next time I am out of town for a few days I will have to make sure someone brings a lap top so I can search the net for this stuff. McGilvary was a last minute choice so I had not looked into it before leaving home.

FYI - the summit register was soaked. I am not sure if there was a problem with the container or if it was just not fully closed. Anyway, it needs a new book if not a whole new container.

jp

Topic: Sheol and McGilvary (sp) (4 of 8)
Author: Parry Loeffler
Date: Monday, August 27, 2007 08:44 PM

I did the Skogan route with Ben and Mike earlier this year and it does sound like it may be a better choice if you don't mind huffing it up some hills on the bike for a couple hours on the approach. Lots of nice scenery and some fun scrambling.

Parry
http://www.parryloeffler.com

Topic: Sheol and McGilvary (sp) (5 of 8)
Author: Marta Wojnarowska
Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 08:07 PM

Would you know whether the 6-people anti-bear rule does or does not apply to:

- Sheol
- Panorama?

Thanks, Marta

Topic: Sheol and McGilvary (sp) (6 of 8)
Author: Ben Bwards
Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 08:37 PM

It applies to both but its only 4 person rule now.

Topic: Sheol and McGilvary (sp) (7 of 8)
Author: Marko Stavric
Date: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:46 PM

http://parcscanada.pch.gc.ca/apps/tcond/cond_e.asp?oPark=100092

Topic: Sheol and McGilvary (sp) (8 of 8)
Author: Jp S
Date: Friday, September 14, 2007 05:57 PM

way too many pics are up. see various folders.

http://community.webshots.com/user/Jon_poru

This website tends to be slow during peak internet hours (ex weekdays 5-7 pm). The slowness really affects the slideshow feature. Also, the slideshow sometimes cuts off the top of pictures. The full-size picture feature is pretty cool but can take a bit of time.

jp