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Topic "Burstall, Storm, Fox and Bogart (1 of 6)" started by Vern Dewit on Sep-05-2009
Topic "The Fox Rocks (1 of 1)" started by Sonny Bou on Sep-03-2003
Topic "Mt. Fox (1 of 6)" started by Frank Nelson on Sep-04-2005
Topic "Mount Fox (1 of 13)" started by Mike Fisher on Aug-14-2006
Topic "Mt. Fox (1 of 8)" started by Dave Stephens on Oct-01-2006
Topic "Mt. Fox (1 of 13)" started by Mountain Ninja on Sep-18-2007

Topic: Mt. Fox (1 of 13)
Author: Mountain Ninja
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 01:26 AM

What do you guys think about this mountain? In my humble opinion it is by far the most difficult Kane scramble. It`s sustained and there`s no room for error. Of course, I had to make it even more difficult for myself. It always happens to me when I go solo. I tackled a couple of sections on the ridge head on, instead of avoiding them either on the left or on the right (I found out I could have avoided them on the way down). And instead of staying on the ridge to the end (I missed the pinnacles), I climbed the last 130 vertical meters or so on the north east face. It was okey, but the only disgusting thing I had to deal with was the loose and downsloping rock. Despite the difficulties, I enjoyed the climb and the summit views were very impressive. I`ll do Fox again in the near future and will try the ridge traverse to Mt. Foch. Anybody know what it is like?



Topic: Mt. Fox (2 of 13)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 07:44 AM

That's funny Raff, cause if I remember correctly, most people here almost sounded disappointed with how easy they thought Fox was compared to what they were expecting! Do a search on 'Fox' and you'll see what I mean. Did you have snow/ice?

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com
http://verndewit.zenfolio.com/

Topic: Mt. Fox (3 of 13)
Author: Marta Wojnarowska
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 07:50 AM

Mt Fox was my favorite scramble for 2006 - nice long sustained scramble - of ever changing character - and difficult in places. Especially the "window".

In the register, at the top, A. Kane remarks that he is re-visting Mt Fox as one of his favorites.

--Marta

Topic: Mt. Fox (4 of 13)
Author: Kevin Papke
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 09:39 AM

I will agree with Raff on this one. Two years ago with a bud who is a solid 5.7-5.9
Alpine rock climber, agreed that it was the
most stressful mountain he had been on.
The rock was absolutely horrible, down sloping and MEAN.
Not as technically difficult as Smuts but
way more scary.

Raff you are fast becoming the "Crappy Rock Champ" with ascents of Vaux, Sir Douglas and Fox. You might want to set your sights on the North Face of Lougheed.
(just kidding)
How was King George??

Topic: Mt. Fox (5 of 13)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 09:56 AM

Yeah - I won't say anything else either way till I try it!! :-) It doesn't sound easy though...

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com
http://verndewit.zenfolio.com/

Topic: Mt. Fox (6 of 13)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 01:29 PM

I agree on the sustained nature of the scrambling on Mount Fox. Especially on descent. Have to keep your mind on the game all the way down. Good fun on the way up, but I found it a bit draining on descent. Still, one of the ones I enjoyed most last year.
Would love to know how the ridge traverse to Foch goes.
Mike

Topic: Mt. Fox (7 of 13)
Author: Mountain Ninja
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 06:32 PM

Yes, there was some fresh snow on the ridge, which made the climb a little tricky. It wasn`t terribly difficult, because I made it to the summit solo. I would have turned around, if it became very sketchy and I didn`t feel comfortable. The ridge itself wasn`t too bad, the nasty downsloping NE face was the crux for me and the snow didn`t make it any easier. I almost rappelled one section on the descent, but at the end decided to downclimb it. Mt. Fox is definately harder than other difficult Kane peaks (I am only comparing it to other Kane peaks). Mt. Galatea on the easier side of difficult, but not Fox. 90% of Kane`s difficult peaks only include a short section of difficult climbing. Mt. Fox, however, offers almost 600 vertical meters of sustained and difficult scrambling and no easy descent route, like it is in the case of Smuts. In my opinion, Mt. Fox`s east ridge was longer and more exhillirating than the east ridge of Mt. Lorette. I found the technical ridge on Lorette shorter and easier than expected, even though it was technical. I would consider Mt. Fox an alpine scramble. Long and sustained with no room for error, where a rope and some protection is in order. Another good example of an alpine scramble (or a semi-technical scramble) would be the Old Goat Mountain, Mt. Ishbell and the SW face of Mt. Assiniboine (some people consider the NE ridge of Assiniboine an alpine scramble too). It`s sustained climbing for many vertical meters with some serious routefinding, but you never encounter any difficult 5th class climbing. There`s also a good chance you will take out your rope to make at least one rappel. This is my definition of an alpine scramble and it would apply to the following Kane peaks: Mt. Fox, Mt. Smuts and maybe Chephren and Mt. Northover (I haven`t done these two yet, so I can`t confirm).

Just my 2 cents...

Topic: Mt. Fox (8 of 13)
Author: Parry Loeffler
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 09:06 PM

Last year Mt. Fox got a good airing out here on the board... seemed to get very mixed reviews - some were quite disappointed while others thought it fantastic.

I've always thought it to be a great trip and one of my all time fav's, but as mentioned, one not to be taken too lightly.

Parry
http://www.parryloeffler.com

Topic: Mt. Fox (9 of 13)
Author: Kevin Papke
Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 04:30 PM

OK Raff, put me down for Northover. I can sense a challenge when I read it.

Once we do all these Kane Peaks we'll sit down for a great discussion over Beers.

First one to scramble all the routes in the
book buys.

Sorry Sonny.

Topic: Mt. Fox (10 of 13)
Author: Sonny Bou
Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 05:28 PM

Ha ha. Nice try, Kevin. Plus I already "bought" everyone a round at my party last month!

Actually, did you mean all of Kane's "peaks" or all of Kane's "routes" (eg. south ridge of Mount Northover which I haven't done)??

Sonny

Topic: Mt. Fox (11 of 13)
Author: Kevin Papke
Date: Friday, September 21, 2007 09:44 AM

Hi Sonny, thanks again for that Beer and Chili, it was great. As for your question
about Northover, I do not know enough about that one yet but here are my thoughts about
route and peaks.

If you do a technical climb on a Kane Scramble you should still get the credit for a Kane Peak.
ie Nestor, did the 5.5 ridge but not the
moderate scramble. So credit go's to the ambitious fellow.

If one scrambles Mt Stanely via an easy east
facing slope instead of a difficult scramble
route then its a little gray.

But if one climbs the North Face then not only should one get credit for the "Kane Peak"
but also a Great Big Greecy Burger and Beer in Canmore.

More importantly .......

If no one responds these trivial discussions
on a web board or in the forest......

Did anyone give a hoot?

Topic: Mt. Fox (12 of 13)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Friday, September 21, 2007 09:58 AM

I think we should start a discussion on Heli access... ;-) JUST KIDDING - go to the 'live-the-vision' board for that interesting discussion...

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com
http://verndewit.zenfolio.com/

Topic: Mt. Fox (13 of 13)
Author: Ken Takabe
Date: Friday, September 21, 2007 02:06 PM

I think we went through a huge discussion on this last year. :D

Topic: Mt. Fox (1 of 8)
Author: Dave Stephens
Date: Sunday, October 01, 2006 03:14 PM

Well, I finally got my first Kane Scramble of the year. On Saturday, Jason Wilcox, TJ Neault and I went up Mt. Fox. The route was dry.

I've got to be honest.... after all of the hype the route got back in August, I was a bit disappointed. Don't get me wrong, it was a fun scramble, but it was easier than I expected and shorter than I would have preferred. Of course, being my second outting in two months, the 4,000 ft of height gain was about my body's limit. Personally, I would have put the route more on the easier side of "difficult", but still difficult.

Sonny's poem in the summit register was really funny.



Dave Stephens
www.dave-stephens.com

Topic: Mt. Fox (2 of 8)
Author: T.J. Neault
Date: Sunday, October 01, 2006 06:16 PM

Yeah, it was not as difficult as I was expecting either. I found it to be very enjoyable � one of my favorite scrambles to date. With this being said though, I wouldn't want to fall on this route, and there were a lot of �hands on� areas.
The poem in the register was awesome!

Topic: Mt. Fox (3 of 8)
Author: Mountain Ninja
Date: Sunday, October 01, 2006 07:47 PM

Sounds like you guys had fun on Fox. That`s the most important thing. Saturday was a great day to be out in the mountains.

Raff
http://members.shaw.ca/mountainmagic/

Topic: Mt. Fox (4 of 8)
Author: Jason Wilcox
Date: Monday, October 02, 2006 11:02 AM

I'd tend to agree with Dave and TJ that the route wasn't all that bad. Lots of exposure but the rock was generally solid and enjoyable. I thought the crux of the trip was supposed to be related to the actual scrambling, but Dave probably disagreed while he was flying through the air over his handlebars in the best display of an endo I've seen in years. Thanks for that Dave, I'm still laughing, and wishing I had kept my camera accessible so I could have captured the flight for all to enjoy... Ahhhhh, good times.

Jason Wilcox

Topic: Mt. Fox (5 of 8)
Author: Dave Stephens
Date: Monday, October 02, 2006 03:54 PM

Whatever I can do to help keep you entertained, Jason. I'm just glad you remembered to bring your front wheel this time.


Dave Stephens
www.dave-stephens.com

Topic: Mt. Fox (6 of 8)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 07:11 AM

Congrats, dudes! Jason, when are you getting a website? :-)

Linda Breton
http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/scrambles.htm

Email: peaksdarkandbright@yahoo.ca

Topic: Mt. Fox (7 of 8)
Author: Jason Wilcox
Date: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 07:27 AM

Funny that you ask that Linda, I just ordered a computer, because up until now I've only had access to the web at work - but now with a computer at home all that's left is for Vern to teach me how - we made a deal - I'll teach him how to sport climb if he teaches me how to build a website. Should be fun.

Jason Wilcox

Topic: Mt. Fox (8 of 8)
Author: Mountain Ninja
Date: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 06:25 PM

That is great news, Jason! You should definately set up your own website. Your reports are always a good read and they`re quite entertaining, too.

Raff

Topic: Mount Fox (1 of 13)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:38 AM

I scrambled Mount Fox yesterday with a group from the Calgary Outdoor Club. It was the hardest scramble and one of the best I've done to date.

Going up wasn't too bad difficulty wise. Pretty much all hands on above Frozen Lake. (As a heads up, there's a trail leading to the ridge about 10 metres back from the lakeshore). The chimney through the pinnacle was a bit tight and loose and once through the chimney there was a window to squeeze through but apart from that, the scrambling was strait-forward as long as you paid attention to the loose rock.

Coming down was the tough part for me. The downclimbing was long and tedious. You have to stay pretty focussed as the holds were pretty loose. It was about three hours from the peak back to Frozen Lake.

It took our group 11 hours total including the extension to the subpeak which I recommend as you're already there, the views are great and the scrambling is fun. With a smaller group and a bike approach, you could probably shave a few hours off.

Topic: Mount Fox (2 of 13)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Monday, August 14, 2006 01:09 PM

Congrats Mike, that one sounds fun. Any pictures we can look at? ;-)

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com

Topic: Mount Fox (3 of 13)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Monday, August 14, 2006 01:44 PM

Not yet. As soon as they're posted I'll paste a link. Hopefully later today.

Topic: Mount Fox (4 of 13)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 07:44 AM

Here are some pictures from Mount Fox. Sorry, there are lots and many are different people working through the same spot. Some of the pictures on the second page provide a pretty good idea of the type of scrambling though.

They're pretty chronological 1-27 and then start again after that (looks like three photographers have submitted shots). The shots of us without packs are on the ridge from the summit to the sub-peak.

Topic: Mount Fox (5 of 13)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 09:24 AM

Probably would help if I actually posted the link:

http://calgaryoutdoorclub.fotki.com/2006/08/2897/

Topic: Mount Fox (6 of 13)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 09:58 AM

That looks like a great ridge! Congrats Mike. Is that chimney near the top then?

Linda Breton
http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/scrambles.htm

Email: peaksdarkandbright@yahoo.ca

Topic: Mount Fox (7 of 13)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:55 AM

About 100 or so metres from the summit. After that, it's less technical but much more loose.

Topic: Mount Fox (8 of 13)
Author: Frank Nelson
Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:41 AM

Fox was a fun scramble, but I think I would have shot myself if we had come across a group that size!
Frank

Topic: Mount Fox (9 of 13)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:52 AM

*Note to self - Frank is packing heat...


Linda Breton
http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/scrambles.htm

Email: peaksdarkandbright@yahoo.ca

Topic: Mount Fox (10 of 13)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:32 PM

Ya, we were Costco sized for sure at nine people but it went pretty well.

Topic: Mount Fox (11 of 13)
Author: Mountain Ninja
Date: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:03 AM

Congrats Mike on bagging Mt. Fox! So far I am only hearing good things about this scramble. I`m hoping to do it sometime this season.

Raff
http://members.shaw.ca/mountainmagic/

Topic: Mount Fox (12 of 13)
Author: Parry Loeffler
Date: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:14 AM

I was up there with Mike on the trip and, truly, I think it's a classic. From the register, it has only seen about four or five parties per year, and it amazes me that word hasn't gotten around about its quality. There's no question it is a "difficult" and the rock can be loose, but the ridge is long, fun, and has some interesting features requiring some creative moves (like squeezing through the 2-foot window (head first, or feet first? : >)

Get up there! : >)

Parry
http://www.parryloeffler.com

Topic: Mount Fox (13 of 13)
Author: Antri Zhu
Date: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 05:57 PM

Nice pictures, although the loose rock doesn't look very fun. Good to hear you guys are still doing scrambles.


Topic: Mt. Fox (1 of 6)
Author: Frank Nelson
Date: Sunday, September 04, 2005 11:51 AM

Pete and I went up Mt. Fox yesterday. Good scramble, but long on descent. It also snowed/rained for about a half hour on descent which brought out the "I'm pissed off at the gods face." A guy was heading up just as we were heading down and when he caught up to us, he told us he got the electrical buzzing etc from his ice axe. Apart from the storm, the worst part of the day was forgetting my lip balm in my car. The bike ride out was also spectacular... so much better than skiing.

http://robson12972.tripod.com/id14.html

Let me know if those pictures are too big/take to long too load.


Frank

Topic: Mt. Fox (2 of 6)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Sunday, September 04, 2005 12:05 PM

Pictures loaded fast enough for me! Of course I'm on my neighbors wireless connection and it's pretty fast... ;-)

Looks like a nice day out!

Vern Dewit
http://www.fresh-oxygen.com

Topic: Mt. Fox (3 of 6)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Sunday, September 04, 2005 06:07 PM

Well done, Frank. Looked like some fun scrambling! (I also had no problems with the pics loading.)

Are you coming to the group trip this month?

Linda Breton

Topic: Mt. Fox (4 of 6)
Author: Dave Stephens
Date: Monday, September 05, 2005 05:58 PM

Good job Frank/Pete, and the pictures were fine. I'm on Shaw, and I think I have the entire Strathmore side of the network to myself. Bandwidth is never a problem here.

Also, I noted your little ski v bike comment. I just can't think of anything witty to say in return... but I will. Last year, Blair and I were skiing the third week of October. T-minus 7 weeks to go.



Dave Stephens
www.dave-stephens.com

Topic: Mt. Fox (5 of 6)
Author: Sonny Bou
Date: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:27 PM

Excellent work you guys! Nice pix of the crux (where's the summit shot?). That really is a great scramble despite the length, and the return bike ride is a hoot. Did you happen to find my lost air pump? :-)

Sonny

Topic: Mt. Fox (6 of 6)
Author: Frank Nelson
Date: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:31 PM

I've got summit shots, but Pete looks goofy (moreso than normal). And sorry, no air pump.

Dave - skiing is great and all, but it's only really spectacular in the spring. Plus, when was the last time somebody skied 60kph on the Elk trails?!

Frank

Topic: The Fox Rocks (1 of 1)
Author: Sonny Bou
Date: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 05:03 PM

On Sunday, 31 August 2003, I took advantage of the excellent weather and scrambled up Mount Fox. The entire east ridge was bone dry, and there weren't really any serious route-finding problems. The hands-on scrambling was enjoyable, but the length of the route does wear on you after awhile. At the crux, instead of climbing through the crack described by Alan Kane, I skirted around the pinnacles on the right side. There's a little bit of exposure here, but nothing too scary, especially if you've already made it that far.

The summit register revealed that this peak is quite popular with Elk Lake PP rangers. A couple of them have bagged this peak twice (so has Alan). Shouldn't they be down in the valley collecting camping fees or chasing bears?

The descent was uneventful, but I hit a snafu on the bike ride back to the parking lot. I got a flat in my front tire, but worse, my pump had jarred loose from my bike and was lying on the trail somewhere between the Hydroline and Patterson junctions (anyone who finds it is welcome to keep it; I've since bought a new one). Too lazy to push my bike, I rode on the flat tire the rest of the way. The bike actually handled surprisingly well despite the flat tire although I'm sure I'll now be needing a new tire if not a whole new rim. It's too bad about the flat though because the ride from Elk Pass back to the parking lot is a blast--virtually all downhill except for one steep push up to the hydroline right-of-way from Fox Creek.

Round trip time: 8.5 hours

Sonny Bou
http://members.shaw.ca/ssbou2003/mountfox.html

Topic: Burstall, Storm, Fox and Bogart (1 of 6)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Saturday, September 05, 2009 07:42 PM

I finished off my 4 days in the mountains last week with Burstall and Storm on September 1, Fox on September 2nd and finally Bogart on September 3rd. Now I'm a little bit sore... ;-)

http://www.explor8ion.com/vern/scrambles/burstall/burstall.html

http://www.explor8ion.com/vern/scrambles/storm/storm.html

http://www.explor8ion.com/vern/scrambles/fox/fox.html

http://www.explor8ion.com/vern/scrambles/bogart/bogart.html

Vern Dewit
http://www.explor8ion.com
http://verndewit.com/

Topic: Burstall, Storm, Fox and Bogart (2 of 6)
Author: Sonny Bou
Date: Sunday, September 06, 2009 09:19 AM

Well done on an amazing week of scrambling, Vern, and even more amazing that it only took 2 days to post all your trip reports!

So are you going to start working again soon? :-)

Sonny

Topic: Burstall, Storm, Fox and Bogart (3 of 6)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Sunday, September 06, 2009 07:13 PM

Thanks Sonny!

It's amazing how much work it is to complete 156 lousy scrambles! :-)

And why would I go back to work?! (Actually I just started looking last Friday again.)

Vern Dewit
http://www.explor8ion.com
http://verndewit.com/

Topic: Burstall, Storm, Fox and Bogart (4 of 6)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:48 AM

Vern - quite the string of scrambles in a short time - you are trying to jam a lot in a short time. Are you afraid the next job will not allow much time off?

Make sure you are still having fun!


bill.kerr@shaw.ca
http://www.billkerr.ca

Topic: Burstall, Storm, Fox and Bogart (5 of 6)
Author: Vern Dewit
Date: Monday, September 07, 2009 01:18 PM

Thanks Bill!

Compared to folks like Marko and Raff I'm still a pretty slow peak bagger so I don't think I'm cramming too much in! :-) I remember that Raff had well over 80 summits one year and he wasn't taking the whole summer off!

Considering I've had the last 2 months off I've kept myself away from the mountains more than I thought I'd be able to...

Vern Dewit
http://www.explor8ion.com
http://verndewit.com/

Topic: Burstall, Storm, Fox and Bogart (6 of 6)
Author: Kevin Papke
Date: Monday, September 07, 2009 07:36 PM

Great work Verny, we did Murray on Friday and yes it was a true scree bash. That said it was way more fun than Fox.
In fact I consider Fox as taxing on the nerves as any technical climb I have ever done.
Another friend who is a strong 5.7-5.9 alpine climber with lots of experience told me it was the most stressful day of his life.
Maybe we are both spoiled. I wonder how it compares to Sir Douglas West Ridge.
Even guides hate that route.
Now the question is after Smuts, Fox and Chephren, which is the most daunting scramble?
Northover? Sarbach? Coleman? Fisher?
Lets coffee and discuss.