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Topic "Burstall and Storelk (1 of 3)" started by Marko Stavric on Sep-10-2007
Topic "Mount Burstall (1 of 4)" started by Kyle Oak on Jul-06-2004
Topic "Burstall (1 of 3)" started by Bill Kerr on Aug-14-2006
Topic "Burstall also needs a register (1 of 13)" started by Scott Berry on Jul-24-2007
Topic "Burstall, Opal traverse, Babel (1 of 4)" started by Jp S on Aug-26-2007

Topic: Burstall, Opal traverse, Babel (1 of 4)
Author: Jp S
Date: Sunday, August 26, 2007 08:54 PM

Oops - did a write up of these three great scrambles but forgot to hit post the second time so it is gone.

Babel is one of my new favorites.

jp

Topic: Burstall, Opal traverse, Babel (2 of 4)
Author: Jp S
Date: Monday, August 27, 2007 05:23 PM

OK - I'll try again. Here are the details on these three excellent scrambles.

Burstall

Great fun above the col. Some early (moderate?) parts of the ridge can be avoided on the left. From the col, there is quite a trail and Kane's description is very good. The cruxes are definitely difficult.

Our one mistake was to follow a ramp on the right to the right side to the col. The ramp is harder than it looks. A likely easier and definitely safer line is the line in photo in the book.

About 5 hours inclusive of breaks and the little nub east of the col.

Opal Traverse

Again, good fun - particularly after the initial grunt to the ridge. Strangely Opal North is only the third highest point on the North end of Opal ridge. The second highest point is on the traverse route. The highest point would involve some very exposed scrambling and the trail avoids it by easily descending to a ledge on the left. I think the South summit is higher than the high point on the North end (??).

Our biggest mistake was not regaining the ridge soon enough after the big cliff band.

Watch for cool fossils in black rock about 1/3 of the way into the traverse and really huge horn coral fossils 2/3rds the way down Opal south.

Descending the green slab was definitely the most interesting part of the scramble. It's a long way down but the footing is great.

We thought there would be more easy ridge walking (particularly after the cliff band)but it was a pretty sustained scramble - although there were only a few difficult parts.

About 8.5 hours inclusive of breaks.

Babel

One of my new favorites. I thought this would be a dull grunt. Instead it was great bang for your buck - decent easy scrambling and great views. Actually, this is probably one of the harder easy scrambles.

The left side had very solid footing and a rock handrail - almost no treadmilling. Relaxing in the summit rock furniture can't be beat. Finally, the descent is mostly scree skiing.

The current summit register is a busted centennial register combined with a gatorade bottle.

Time - About 2 hours including a 30 minute break on the summit. "Military" pace (not my normal pace). We followed up with the hike into the Diadem bivy.

jp

Topic: Burstall, Opal traverse, Babel (3 of 4)
Author: Mountain Ninja
Date: Monday, August 27, 2007 05:44 PM

You had a very productive week, JP. A big congratulations on bagging so many nice peaks!

Topic: Burstall, Opal traverse, Babel (4 of 4)
Author: Jp S
Date: Friday, September 14, 2007 05:56 PM

way too many pics are up. see various folders.


http://community.webshots.com/user/Jon_poru

This website tends to be slow during peak internet hours (ex weekdays 5-7 pm). The slowness really affects the slideshow feature. Also, the slideshow sometimes cuts off the top of pictures. The full-size picture feature is pretty cool but can take a bit of time.


jp

Topic: Burstall also needs a register (1 of 13)
Author: Scott Berry
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:20 AM

Soloed up and back on Sunday morning and found the twist ties only, from the Centennial register. Those nalgene bottles were really a bad idea. I feel guilty for placing one on the Fist. I wonder if it is still there.

Topic: The Tower also needs a register (2 of 13)
Author: Marko Stavric
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:28 AM

I couldnt find a register on The Tower either.

Topic: The Tower also needs a register (3 of 13)
Author: Sonny Bou
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:48 AM

Marko,

No booklet or no canister or both?

Sonny

Topic: The Tower also needs a register (4 of 13)
Author: Ken Takabe
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:10 PM

So assuming those guys on the Centennial expedition replaced the Kane registers with their flimsy Nalgene bottles, what did they do with the Kane registers?!

Those things cost around $25 to make!

Topic: The Tower also needs a register (5 of 13)
Author: Scott Berry
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:21 PM

We asked the question at the time and were told to retrieve the booklets and canisters. I did not believe this was a good idea at the time and therefore we left the canister on the Fist, but retrieved the old book and left the new one. Those that did take the cannisters, took them to the fellow in Canmore that organized this whole thing (don't recall his name). Apparently he was going to drop them off at the Whyte Museum. A little follow up on this may be worthwhile, in order to find the actual final location on these canisters.

Topic: The Tower also needs a register (6 of 13)
Author: Ken Takabe
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 05:02 PM

I just got off the phone with Jim Bruce who's the ACC guy in charge of the summit registers.

He said that the contents of the registers were submitted to the Whyte Museum but he didn't know where the actual registers went. Doh!

He does have several pre-made registers at his home in Cochrane if anyone wants to pick one up. You can reach him at 932-8833.

Topic: The Tower also needs a register (7 of 13)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:22 PM

They don't cost that much. Only about $10-15. I put one together last year for about that and a good portion of the expense is the glue which I still have and will be able to use on multiple cannisters should I decide to do any more.

As an aside, I came across two of those centennial registers this week. One on Lady Mac and another on Storm. I was amazed to see them still and find the registers inside in good shape. Not sure how these ones managed to survive while many of the others have failed miserably.

Topic: The Tower also needs a register (8 of 13)
Author: Scott Berry
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 01:27 PM

Yeah, I saw that one on Lady Mac back in early May. Although still intact, it was starting to fray, and I suspect it will not make it through another season.

Topic: The Tower also needs a register (9 of 13)
Author: Ken Takabe
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 03:44 PM

Mike,

What kind of registers did you build? Did you use the black PVC tubing?

I checked out the material costs at Home Depot and although the tubing isn't too expensive, the ends were pricey - especially the screw off cap.

I wouldn't mind making a few of my own... or at least finding the original registers.

Oh yeah, if anyone is going up Yamnuska, that register desperately needs a register booklet. There was around 30 pcs of scrap paper in that thing 2 weeks ago.




Topic: The Tower also needs a register (10 of 13)
Author: Marko Stavric
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 01:32 PM

No sign of the canister or booklet. Maybe it's really well hidden. There were three cairns and I had a pretty good look at each of them but didn't see anything.

Topic: The Tower also needs a register (11 of 13)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:44 PM

Ken ... I built the traditional black PVC pipe cannister using 2" pipe. I had a solid cap on one end and the screw top on the other. Agreed, the pricey bits are the caps and screw parts but I think because I went pretty small, the price was a bit lower.

Topic: The Tower also needs a register (12 of 13)
Author: Daniel McKellar
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:58 PM

That's odd about no summit register on the Tower...I was up there last july (stampede-ish) and there was a good pvc pipe register with a summit booklet dating back to the late 90's...so it had been around for a while - something must have happened!

Topic: Burstall also needs a register (13 of 13)
Author: Rob Eastick
Date: Saturday, July 28, 2007 01:24 PM

Confusingly, there are two registers on Mount Sparrowhawk today. I thought it was strange that we were only the seventh party to summit this year, but that's only because everybody else signed the other register.

I didn't feel right just taking one of them down and giving it to the ACC, but having two on the summit feels a little strange.

Topic: Burstall (1 of 3)
Author: Bill Kerr
Date: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:46 PM

Weather and limited time = Burstall. Enjoyable and interesting scrambling but too bad there isn't more ridge. I must be getting lazy or picky as I am starting to notice the slog to scramble ratio.
Register is all chewed up as already reported. Only thing inside was card from Mike Pearce.
I also notice that reports of the loose crap on some mountains is affecting my desire to go climb them. Things like the Mitre and Sir Douglas West ridge have fallen a long way down on my lists.

Pics at website.
bill.kerr@shaw.ca
http://www.billkerr.ca

Topic: Burstall (2 of 3)
Author: Dave Stephens
Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 05:02 AM

Come to think of it, The Mitre and Sir Douglas had awesome rock. :-) I think everyone should suffer through ... er... I mean enjoy those climbs.

I know what you mean about looking into the slog to climb ratio. I'm starting to get lazy myself. That tells me I need to hurry up and finish the longer peaks.


Dave Stephens
www.dave-stephens.com

Topic: Burstall (3 of 3)
Author: Linda Breton
Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 06:10 AM

I've noticed the ratio, but I seem to be going for longer slogs all the time, probably because I've never been able to slog before. It's become a twisted positive sign! Heck, I'm even starting to dream about crap rock like Sir Douglas.;-)

And what is up with that short ridge on Burstall?! That's way to short. ;-) I see why he suggests the extension down the western end now. Has anyone done that?

Linda Breton
http://scramblesandrambles.150m.com/scrambles.htm

Email: peaksdarkandbright@yahoo.ca

Topic: Mount Burstall (1 of 4)
Author: Kyle Oak
Date: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:59 PM

Colin S and I went up Mount Burstall Monday in varying conditions. We carried on the trend of late starts at a mediocre 12PM, but nothing like Sonny's 4:30 start on Norquay. It was relativly sunny all morning and carried on until we got to the col at 1:30. When we reached the col, the clouds socked in and it started to rain. We took a break here and started thinking about turning around. Soon enough, the clouds broke apart and we waited another 45 mins at the col for the rocks to dry out a bit. The summit ridge is interesting and exposed at a few sections and I didn't find it terribly loose. Short and sweet,5 hours round trip.

We were going to climb Arethusa today, but the weather was cloudy and cold all day so we went to Wasootch instead. Just as we got there 4 van loads of elementary students were just leaving. We definetly lucked out.


Kyle Oak

Topic: Mount Burstall (2 of 4)
Author: Dave Stephens
Date: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 06:24 AM

Arethusa might not have been available. Ptarmigan Cirque (Mt. Rae) is closed for bear, and according to a friend who was down there this weekend, Tywhitt and Poccaterra was also closed. I just looked at the Kananaskis Trail Report, and it talks of Ptarmigan Cirque's bear, but it doesn't mention the other side of the road.


Dave Stephens
www.dave-stephens.com

Topic: Mount Burstall (3 of 4)
Author: Kyle Oak
Date: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:39 PM

Sonny,
From the summit, all of the Chester Lake scrambles are good to go. Gusty Peak, Galatea, and the Tower had a reasonable amount of snow on them. When I did The Tower there was still quite a bit of snow left which made it easier on the way up(scree on slab) and of course quicker on the descent as well. I never did get a view of Commonwealth Peak. Murray and Cegnfs are in too but that looks like a scree slog.

On a side note, while we were waiting for the weather to clear at the col, what looked to be a flair signal came up behind Burstalls ascent route. It would make the most sense if the color of the smoke was a red or orange, but it was white. The smoke was too low to be from a plane and we never saw anything mechanical flying around. Usually with jets you hear the "whoosh" noise but it was totally silent. I managed to get a picture of it. I doubt it was a flair signal because of the color of the smoke.

Kyle Oak

Topic: Mount Burstall (4 of 4)
Author: Sonny Bou
Date: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:43 AM

Hey Kyle, did you happen to see what conditions were like on the surrounding peaks? I'm specifically interested in Commonwealth Peak, The Tower and Gusty Peak.

Thanks for any advice.

Sonny
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~ssbou

Topic: Burstall and Storelk (1 of 3)
Author: Marko Stavric
Date: Monday, September 10, 2007 09:08 AM

Some photos from Burstall and Storelk

Burstall:
http://public.fotki.com/markostavric/2007/20070908/

Snow made a section on Burstall pretty sketchy and half of our group turned around. The rest of us carefully climbed up and were rewarded with some pretty nice views.

Storelk:
http://public.fotki.com/markostavric/2007/20070909/

Lack of motivation and a bone chilling wind at the summit made me headback down the same way (I'm a pansy), while the rest of the group successfully traversed to Mt. Tyrwhitt. Sounded like a fun traverse.

Topic: Burstall and Storelk/Trywhitt Traverse (2 of 3)
Author: Mike Fisher
Date: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:21 AM

Both were great trips. Burstall is now one of my favourite short trips. A little snow on the crux and ridge to the summit made it a little more interesting and that scree run from the col is among the best I've ever experienced.

The traverse from Storelk to Trywhitt was a lot of fun too. We couldn't find any beta on it so wasn't sure if it would go but it was very straight forward. Lots of up and down though adding about 1000m of additional gain from Storelk. Mostly moderate scrambling with a few short difficult/exposed sections.

Topic: Burstall and Storelk/Trywhitt Traverse (3 of 3)
Author: Mountain Ninja
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 01:08 AM

Burstall is also my favourite short trip. It`s a fun mountain and loved the scree run!